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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author!
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Do, 08 Juni 2006 17:23 |
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Guess who came first? Yup. JK Rowling. Who else? WIth three times more
votes than her next closest rival.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5058220.stm
But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/08/100231.php
Discuss.
Rob
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There are three types of people in the world: those who can count and
those who can't.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280734 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 17:33 |
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robcraine wrote:
> Guess who came first? Yup. JK Rowling. Who else? WIth three times more
> votes than her next closest rival.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5058220.stm
<quote>
"Our survey provides a fascinating insight into what the British public
thinks makes a 'great' writer," said Christine Kidney, editor of the
trade paper.
</quote>
Quite. I would think that the British public has equated 'great' with
one or more of 'rich', 'famous' and 'best-selling'.
At least the last of those is a somewhat relevant definition, at least
from the point of view of accountants and book sellers.
I wonder if the result had been different had they asked for the 'best'
writer.
> But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
> screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
Hmm... If that's the case, would a list of the UK's greatest dead
writers be topped by Ian Fleming, William Shakespeare, Charles Dickens,
JRR Tolkien and Douglas Adams?
Orjan
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280737 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 17:35 |
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robcraine wrote:
> Guess who came first? Yup. JK Rowling. Who else? WIth three times more
> votes than her next closest rival.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5058220.stm
As is traditional, PR wins and quality comes in second.
(Oh, I *like* the HP books. And Rowling's a magnificent storyteller. I
just don't think she's a terribly good *writer*. Mind you, they did say
"author", didn't they...)
> But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
> screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
> http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/08/100231.php
Yes.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280754 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 18:00 |
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Orjan Westin <nospam [at] cunobaros.com> wrote:
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> <quote>
> "Our survey provides a fascinating insight into what the British
> public thinks makes a 'great' writer," said Christine Kidney, editor
> of the trade paper.
> </quote>
>
> Quite. I would think that the British public has equated 'great' with
> one or more of 'rich', 'famous' and 'best-selling'.
>
> At least the last of those is a somewhat relevant definition, at least
> from the point of view of accountants and book sellers.
>
> I wonder if the result had been different had they asked for the
> 'best' writer.
Probably not. Plebs will ascribe all superlatives to their favourite, no
matter whether it's the /only/ author they've ever read. Even if the poll
was for "most proficient and adept author", J.K. Rowlins would probably
"win", due to this.
Regards,
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*Art
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280767 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 18:42 |
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"robcraine" <robcraine [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1149780202.026458.20440 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Guess who came first? Yup. JK Rowling. Who else? WIth three times more
> votes than her next closest rival.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5058220.stm
>
> But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
> screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
> http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/08/100231.php
>
> Discuss.
>
> Rob
These votes don't count until I get counted among the voting public. :)
Pratchett is the best living writer bar none IMNSHO.
Aggie
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280769 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 18:45 |
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robcraine wrote:
> Guess who came first? Yup. JK Rowling. Who else? WIth three times more
> votes than her next closest rival.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5058220.stm
>
> But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
> screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
> http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/08/100231.php
>
> Discuss.
>
> Rob
>
> --
> There are three types of people in the world: those who can count and
> those who can't.
Rowling is a momentary reflection on the kettle, as the old Holy Wood
saying puts it.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280785 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 19:35 |
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"Arthur Hagen" <art [at] broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:e69hjb$h7u$1 [at] tree.broomstick.com...
> Orjan Westin <nospam [at] cunobaros.com> wrote:
>>
>> <quote>
>> "Our survey provides a fascinating insight into what the British
>> public thinks makes a 'great' writer," said Christine Kidney, editor
>> of the trade paper.
>> </quote>
>>
>> Quite. I would think that the British public has equated 'great'
>> with
>> one or more of 'rich', 'famous' and 'best-selling'.
>>
>> At least the last of those is a somewhat relevant definition, at
>> least
>> from the point of view of accountants and book sellers.
>>
>> I wonder if the result had been different had they asked for the
>> 'best' writer.
>
> Probably not. Plebs will ascribe all superlatives to their favourite,
> no matter whether it's the /only/ author they've ever read. Even if
> the poll was for "most proficient and adept author", J.K. Rowlins
> would probably "win", due to this.
>
Plus you have to ask how was the survey conducted and who the people
were that were asked to express an opinion, if you do an on the spot job
in the street with names of authors/book and stop kids as well then
they, more than likely, are only going to pick the author/book that is
foremost mind ie popular due to recent film adaptations etc, whereas an
adult is more likely pick an author or book by totally different
criteria. And you will still get the plebs.
Steve
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Lesson number 19 in how to skew the results of a survey, ask a child.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280809 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 20:39 |
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"Orjan Westin" <nospam [at] cunobaros.com> wrote:
> robcraine wrote:
> > But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
> > screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
>
> Hmm... If that's the case, would a list of the UK's greatest dead
> writers be topped by Ian Fleming, William Shakespeare, Charles Dickens,
> JRR Tolkien and Douglas Adams?
You know... I wouldn't be surprised at at least the middle three making
it in.
Richard
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280872 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 23:11 |
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robcraine wrote:
> Guess who came first? Yup. JK Rowling. Who else? WIth three times more
> votes than her next closest rival.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5058220.stm
>
> But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
> screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
> http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/08/100231.php
>
> Discuss.
What she said in her blog; that's exactly what I think, except for Terry
Brooks, of whom I am not an admirer.
-Rocky
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O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280898 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 00:01 |
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In message <news:4equ9iF1fefhlU1 [at] individual.net> "Orjan Westin"
<nospam [at] cunobaros.com> enriched us with:
>
> robcraine wrote:
>>
>> Guess who came first? Yup. JK Rowling. Who else? WIth three times
>> more votes than her next closest rival.
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5058220.stm
>
> <quote>
> "Our survey provides a fascinating insight into what the British
> public thinks makes a 'great' writer," said Christine Kidney,
> editor of the trade paper.
> </quote>
>
> Quite. I would think that the British public has equated 'great'
> with one or more of 'rich', 'famous' and 'best-selling'.
I'm not so sure of that. Sure, Rowling's fame has been greatly fanned
by the films and the hype and the secrecy surrounding the book
releases (which is, to a great part, her own idea), but in the
beginning her reputation was carried by word of mouth.
I think that a large part of it is that Rowling writes in a style
that reads very much like watching an action-film (which also, I
believe, partly explains why the films are so loyal to the books).
Rowling's books are the blockbusters of the literary world, and she
is acclaimed a 'great author' for the same reasons that the directors
of the blockbuster films are acclaimed 'great directors' -- they are
enjoyable and entertaining without requiring too much of you.
> At least the last of those is a somewhat relevant definition, at
> least from the point of view of accountants and book sellers.
As a measure of 'greatness' it does have the advantage of being
measurable and objective, and as a measure of popularity it is
probably even reasonably precise . . .
> I wonder if the result had been different had they asked for the
> 'best' writer.
Probably not.
--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
from magic.
- Arthur C. Clarke, /Profiles of The Future/, 1961
(Also known as 'Clarke's third law')
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280916 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 00:39 |
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Troels Forchhammer wrote:
> In message <news:4equ9iF1fefhlU1 [at] individual.net> "Orjan Westin"
>>robcraine wrote:
>>
>>>Guess who came first? Yup. JK Rowling. Who else? WIth three times
>>>more votes than her next closest rival.
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5058220.stm
>>
>><quote>
>>"Our survey provides a fascinating insight into what the British
>>public thinks makes a 'great' writer," said Christine Kidney,
>>editor of the trade paper.
>></quote>
>>
>>Quite. I would think that the British public has equated 'great'
>>with one or more of 'rich', 'famous' and 'best-selling'.
>
> I'm not so sure of that. Sure, Rowling's fame has been greatly fanned
> by the films and the hype and the secrecy surrounding the book
> releases (which is, to a great part, her own idea), but in the
> beginning her reputation was carried by word of mouth.
>
> I think that a large part of it is that Rowling writes in a style
> that reads very much like watching an action-film (which also, I
> believe, partly explains why the films are so loyal to the books).
But then Matthew Reilly would be top of the list.
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| Re: Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280950 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 03:21 |
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robcraine wrote:
> But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
> screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
> http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/08/100231.php
D'yknow, I'm completely unbotherated by Ms. Rowling. As the Fedora'd
God says himself, it's not like there's a book ration: people
buying/loving Potter aren't going to not pick up Discworld, heck, they
may even begin trawling the rest of the children's shelves and bump
into Maurice.
Notwithstanding that the survey may include certain individuals who
haven't actually 'read' Hogwarts-based literature as such, or at least
much beyond the opening Credits. That in mind,
It WILL be interesting to see what effect Hogfather has at christmas on
Pratchett sales and recognition.
Oh, and hello, new person here, apologies if I offend local netiquette,
I cut my usenet teeth on B3ta so occasional puerility my be forthcoming
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| Re: Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280952 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 03:28 |
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Torak wrote:
> > But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
> > screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
> > http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/08/100231.php
>
> Yes.
This part was interesting:
"If Iain Banks' Culture novels had been successfully adapted into
Hollywood movies, would his name be top of the list?"
that's a big 'If'. Even less Hollywood-friendly than the Disc, i fear.
Hard to successfully film protracted action sequences that last
microseconds.
But I digress
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| Re: Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #280999 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 10:30 |
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"Great Big Fish" <lordbugski [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1149816088.632967.288540 [at] y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> robcraine wrote:
>> But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
>> screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
>> http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/08/100231.php
>
> D'yknow, I'm completely unbotherated by Ms. Rowling. As the Fedora'd
> God says himself, it's not like there's a book ration: people
> buying/loving Potter aren't going to not pick up Discworld, heck, they
> may even begin trawling the rest of the children's shelves and bump
> into Maurice.
>
> Notwithstanding that the survey may include certain individuals who
> haven't actually 'read' Hogwarts-based literature as such, or at least
> much beyond the opening Credits. That in mind,
> It WILL be interesting to see what effect Hogfather has at christmas
> on
> Pratchett sales and recognition.
>
> Oh, and hello, new person here, apologies if I offend local
> netiquette,
> I cut my usenet teeth on B3ta so occasional puerility my be
> forthcoming
>
Chair, Chocolate, cat, alligator.... etc
Welcome and may your dalliance with us be a long and fruitful one.
Steve
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #281010 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 11:10 |
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:35:19 +0100, Steve Rogers wrote:
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> Steve
> -----
> Lesson number 19 in how to skew the results of a survey, ask a child.
Or.. ask a child to compile a survey
1. Do you like JK Rowling?
2. If you answered No to 1 above, do you like Harry Potter?
3. If you answered No to 2 above please tear up survey and place in bin
(it saves us the time)
4. How much do you like JK Rowling?
5. On a scale of 10-10 how good do you think JK Rowling is?
6. Do you like any other authrs? [1]
[1] This question is included for marketing purposes only and will not
form part of the survey proper.
Kind regards,
Julian
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #281213 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 00:58 |
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From the Collected Witterings of Torak, volume 23:
> (Oh, I *like* the HP books. And Rowling's a magnificent storyteller. I
> just don't think she's a terribly good *writer*.
No, she's a lousy storyteller and a lousy writer who happens to have a good
story - not that it's original to her in any way.
--
If life gives you lemmings, jump off a cliff.
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Sa, 10 Juni 2006 01:00 |
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From the Collected Witterings of Orjan Westin, volume 23:
> I would think that the British public has equated 'great' with
> one or more of 'rich', 'famous' and 'best-selling'.
No, I just think they've picked the one book they've actually read/seen the
movie of/been told about by a friend and rolled with it.
>> But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to the big
>> screen, would public opinion be slightly different?
>
> Hmm... If that's the case, would a list of the UK's greatest dead
> writers be topped by Ian Fleming, William Shakespeare, Charles Dickens,
> JRR Tolkien and Douglas Adams?
No. It'd be topped by JK fucking Rowling.
--
If life gives you lemmings, jump off a cliff.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #281223 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 01:35 |
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David Chapman <jedit_ojanen8 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hmm... If that's the case, would a list of the UK's greatest dead
>> writers be topped by Ian Fleming, William Shakespeare, Charles
>> Dickens, JRR Tolkien and Douglas Adams?
>
> No. It'd be topped by JK fucking Rowling.
JK Simmons fucking Rowling? Now that would be a movie not fit for dogs.
Regards,
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*Art
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #281228 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 01:46 |
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The time: 10 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: "David Chapman" <jedit_ojanen8 [at] hotmail.com>
> From the Collected Witterings of Orjan Westin, volume 23:
>> I would think that the British public has equated 'great'
>> with one or more of 'rich', 'famous' and 'best-selling'.
>
> No, I just think they've picked the one book they've
> actually read/seen the movie of/been told about by a friend
> and rolled with it.
>
>>> But, as one critic points out, if Rincwind had made it to
>>> the big screen, would public opinion be slightly
>>> different?
>>
>> Hmm... If that's the case, would a list of the UK's
>> greatest dead writers be topped by Ian Fleming, William
>> Shakespeare, Charles Dickens, JRR Tolkien and Douglas
>> Adams?
>
> No. It'd be topped by JK fucking Rowling.
You know one of these days, we really must see about getting
David a bed that *has* a good side, so he can get out on it
occasionally...
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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Sa, 10 Juni 2006 02:00 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> speaker: "David Chapman" <jedit_ojanen8 [at] hotmail.com>
>>From the Collected Witterings of Orjan Westin, volume 23:
>>
>>>Hmm... If that's the case, would a list of the UK's
>>>greatest dead writers be topped by Ian Fleming, William
>>>Shakespeare, Charles Dickens, JRR Tolkien and Douglas
>>>Adams?
>>
>>No. It'd be topped by JK fucking Rowling.
>
> You know one of these days, we really must see about getting
> David a bed that *has* a good side, so he can get out on it
> occasionally...
It'd have to be at least an octagon.
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Sa, 10 Juni 2006 02:34 |
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"Torak" <perry_awm [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jYnig.1850$YI3.1266 [at] amstwist00...
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> speaker: "David Chapman" <jedit_ojanen8 [at] hotmail.com>
>>>From the Collected Witterings of Orjan Westin, volume 23:
>>>
>>>>Hmm... If that's the case, would a list of the UK's
>>>>greatest dead writers be topped by Ian Fleming, William
>>>>Shakespeare, Charles Dickens, JRR Tolkien and Douglas
>>>>Adams?
>>>
>>>No. It'd be topped by JK fucking Rowling.
>>
>> You know one of these days, we really must see about getting David a
>> bed that *has* a good side, so he can get out on it occasionally...
>
> It'd have to be at least an octagon.
>
What:
--- okay ---
/ \
good bad
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betterer worserer
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- indifferent -
Steve
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Never was all that good at ASCII art
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Sa, 10 Juni 2006 17:51 |
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From the Collected Witterings of Daibhid Ceanaideach, volume 23:
> You know one of these days, we really must see about getting
> David a bed that *has* a good side, so he can get out on it
> occasionally...
My bed is set against the wall. There's only one side you can get out on.
I note also that you didn't dispute my assertions that a) the "reading"
public are morons and b) JK Rowling would win that poll.
--
If life gives you lemmings, jump off a cliff.
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Sa, 10 Juni 2006 18:14 |
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I like the idea that popularity equals greatness, even if only in
passing. Popularity over several hundred years generally does equal
greatness, but we do not have the time to check Rollings vs anyone over
that span.
For me I have a test: if I had new books by several writers set before
me, which one would I pick up first? Which would I recommend to a
friend, unread? Pratchett, Bujold, and Rollings fit the test, and if
Bujold were still doing the Myles series I might put her in the top of
the list.
Another part, again for me, is has the writer done a book that I have
not enjoyed? It seems that this may be another way of asking if the
writer has written many books, but so far Rollings and Bujold have not
disappointed. Terry's SF, and one or two of his juviniles (Johnny and
the Dead was dead for me) were not my cup of tea. Bujold's new fantasy
series is slow to get my interest per each book, but a wonderful read.
Which brings me to another point. Bujold's readers find many uplifting
or at least notable points in her work -- one of them started a quotes
page(http://quotationspage.com/quotes/Lois_McMaster_Bujold/). I find
the same amount of good wise intellegent points in Pratchetts work. Is
there a quote page? oh, so there sortof is.
Sean
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Sa, 10 Juni 2006 18:32 |
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The time: 10 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: "David Chapman" <jedit_ojanen8 [at] hotmail.com>
> From the Collected Witterings of Daibhid Ceanaideach,
> volume 23:
>
>> You know one of these days, we really must see about
>> getting David a bed that *has* a good side, so he can get
>> out on it occasionally...
>
> My bed is set against the wall. There's only one side you
> can get out on.
>
> I note also that you didn't dispute my assertions that a)
> the "reading" public are morons and b) JK Rowling would win
> that poll.
I've just escaped from a thousand-post repeated-assertion
contest. Why would I start another one?
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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Sa, 10 Juni 2006 18:46 |
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Sean Cleary wrote:
> I like the idea that popularity equals greatness, even if only in
> passing. Popularity over several hundred years generally does equal
> greatness, but we do not have the time to check Rollings vs anyone over
> that span.
>
> For me I have a test: if I had new books by several writers set before
> me, which one would I pick up first? Which would I recommend to a
> friend, unread? Pratchett, Bujold, and Rollings fit the test, and if
> Bujold were still doing the Myles series I might put her in the top of
> the list.
>
> Another part, again for me, is has the writer done a book that I have
> not enjoyed? It seems that this may be another way of asking if the
> writer has written many books, but so far Rollings and Bujold have not
> disappointed. Terry's SF, and one or two of his juviniles (Johnny and
> the Dead was dead for me) were not my cup of tea. Bujold's new fantasy
> series is slow to get my interest per each book, but a wonderful read.
>
> Which brings me to another point. Bujold's readers find many uplifting
> or at least notable points in her work -- one of them started a quotes
> page(http://quotationspage.com/quotes/Lois_McMaster_Bujold/). I find
> the same amount of good wise intellegent points in Pratchetts work. Is
> there a quote page? oh, so there sortof is.
>
>
> Sean
>
ooooh, Bujold quotes. Thank you!!!
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Sa, 10 Juni 2006 21:29 |
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on 10/06/2006 16:51 David Chapman said the following:
> My bed is set against the wall. There's only one side you can get
> out on.
This explains a great deal.
esmi
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #281377 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 22:40 |
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:29:27 +0100, esmi <esmi [at] lspace.org> wrote:
>on 10/06/2006 16:51 David Chapman said the following:
>
>> My bed is set against the wall. There's only one side you can get
>> out on.
>
>This explains a great deal.
Methinks he should move it to the opposite wall
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286450 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 00:05 |
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From the Collected Witterings of Lister, volume 23:
> On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:29:27 +0100, esmi <esmi [at] lspace.org> wrote:
>
>> on 10/06/2006 16:51 David Chapman said the following:
>>
>>> My bed is set against the wall. There's only one side you can get
>>> out on.
>>
>> This explains a great deal.
> Methinks he should move it to the opposite wall
As it happens, I did when I got my new bed a few months ago - it's slightly
longer than the old one and doesn't fit the other way. I now get out of bed
on the other side.
Moral: It doesn't matter which side of the bed you get out on; if you're
getting out of bed, it's a *bad* side.
--
If life gives you lemmings, jump off a cliff.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286466 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 00:56 |
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David Chapman wrote:
>
> As it happens, I did when I got my new bed a few months ago - it's slightly
> longer than the old one and doesn't fit the other way. I now get out of bed
> on the other side.
>
> Moral: It doesn't matter which side of the bed you get out on; if you're
> getting out of bed, it's a *bad* side.
Getting out of bed is Not Good
Falling out of bed is Bad
Getting kicked out of bed is Worse
--
Dom
afpSlave to CCA
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286467 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 00:59 |
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:42:56 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
> These votes don't count until I get counted among the voting public. :)
> Pratchett is the best living writer bar none IMNSHO.
Heeey, I haven't been added either, and I think PTerry's the greatest
author that ever lived too - well he's the only author that's ever gotten
me hooked on to anything anyway! I reckon every year nobody ever votes for
J.K.Rowling - after all it's children that read her books, and they're not
allowed to vote at that age anyway. Her publishers just bribe somebody to
make up all those statistics on the poll for her to sell more Harry
Potter books for them every year! :-)
All the best
Sofie
--
Please visit my deviantART page: http://sofen.deviantart.com/
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286468 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 01:08 |
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"David Chapman" <jedit_ojanen8 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e6ffo1$4r0$3$8302bc10 [at] news.demon.co.uk...
> From the Collected Witterings of Lister, volume 23:
>> On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:29:27 +0100, esmi <esmi [at] lspace.org> wrote:
>>
>>> on 10/06/2006 16:51 David Chapman said the following:
>>>
>>>> My bed is set against the wall. There's only one side you can get
>>>> out on.
>>>
>>> This explains a great deal.
>
>> Methinks he should move it to the opposite wall
>
> As it happens, I did when I got my new bed a few months ago - it's
> slightly longer than the old one and doesn't fit the other way. I now
> get out of bed on the other side.
>
> Moral: It doesn't matter which side of the bed you get out on; if
> you're getting out of bed, it's a *bad* side.
>
So sleep on the floor?
Steve
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286470 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 01:11 |
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David Chapman wrote:
> From the Collected Witterings of Lister, volume 23:
>>On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:29:27 +0100, esmi <esmi [at] lspace.org> wrote:
>>>on 10/06/2006 16:51 David Chapman said the following:
>>>
>>>>My bed is set against the wall. There's only one side you can get
>>>>out on.
>>>
>>>This explains a great deal.
>
>>Methinks he should move it to the opposite wall
>
> As it happens, I did when I got my new bed a few months ago - it's slightly
> longer than the old one and doesn't fit the other way. I now get out of bed
> on the other side.
>
> Moral: It doesn't matter which side of the bed you get out on; if you're
> getting out of bed, it's a *bad* side.
"Jaaaa vakna' upp på morron... så va' den da'n förstörd..."
Translation is left as an exercise for the reader.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286475 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 01:35 |
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The time: 11 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: Torak <perry_awm [at] hotmail.com>
> "Jaaaa vakna' upp på morron... så va' den da'n förstörd..."
>
> Translation is left as an exercise for the reader.
No it isn't. It doesn't look anything *like* "left as an
exercise for the reader"...
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286476 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 01:35 |
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The time: 10 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: "David Chapman" <jedit_ojanen8 [at] hotmail.com>
> From the Collected Witterings of Lister, volume 23:
>> On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:29:27 +0100, esmi <esmi [at] lspace.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> on 10/06/2006 16:51 David Chapman said the following:
>>>
>>>> My bed is set against the wall. There's only one side
>>>> you can get out on.
>>>
>>> This explains a great deal.
>
>> Methinks he should move it to the opposite wall
>
> As it happens, I did when I got my new bed a few months ago
> - it's slightly longer than the old one and doesn't fit the
> other way. I now get out of bed on the other side.
>
> Moral: It doesn't matter which side of the bed you get out
> on; if you're getting out of bed, it's a *bad* side.
Very true.
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286479 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 01:43 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> The time: 11 Jun 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
> speaker: Torak <perry_awm [at] hotmail.com>
>
>
>
>>"Jaaaa vakna' upp på morron... så va' den da'n förstörd..."
>>
>>Translation is left as an exercise for the reader.
>
>
> No it isn't. It doesn't look anything *like* "left as an
> exercise for the reader"...
All depends on what language you're using. For instance, the Outer
Burundian for "deep-fried Mars Bar" sounds almost exactly like our way
of saying "Blibble, mister Chipmunk, mine's a pint".
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286506 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 04:50 |
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Sofia <pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:42:56 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
>
>> These votes don't count until I get counted among the voting public.
>> :) Pratchett is the best living writer bar none IMNSHO.
>
>
> Heeey, I haven't been added either, and I think PTerry's the greatest
> author that ever lived too - well he's the only author that's ever
> gotten me hooked on to anything anyway! I reckon every year nobody
> ever votes for J.K.Rowling - after all it's children that read her
> books, and they're not allowed to vote at that age anyway. Her
> publishers just bribe somebody to make up all those statistics on the
> poll for her to sell more Harry Potter books for them every year! :-)
While I think Terry Pratchett is a very good writer, and one of the best in
his field (certainly in a different class than J. K. Rowlins, IMO), I'm not
sure I'd call him "great" and neccessarily better than /all/ others. He's
good enough for me to buy and read his books, unlike most authors, but I
think it would be quite unfair to pit him against the truly great. I think
that neither Rowlins nor Pratchett truly should be in the top three, but
Pratchett should IMO be way, way above Rowlins on most types of list --
except, perhaps, "Authors captivating an audience which usually doesn't read
much". I'll give her that.
Regards,
--
*Art
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286535 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 09:42 |
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Torak wrote:
> David Chapman wrote:
>> From the Collected Witterings of Lister, volume 23:
>>> On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:29:27 +0100, esmi <esmi [at] lspace.org> wrote:
>>>> on 10/06/2006 16:51 David Chapman said the following:
>>>>
>>>>> My bed is set against the wall. There's only one side you can get
>>>>> out on.
>>>>
>>>> This explains a great deal.
>>
>>> Methinks he should move it to the opposite wall
>>
>> As it happens, I did when I got my new bed a few months ago - it's
>> slightly longer than the old one and doesn't fit the other way. I now
>> get out of bed on the other side.
>>
>> Moral: It doesn't matter which side of the bed you get out on; if
>> you're getting out of bed, it's a *bad* side.
>
> "Jaaaa vakna' upp på morron... så va' den da'n förstörd..."
>
> Translation is left as an exercise for the reader.
The shortest blues ever...?
Pudde.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286545 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 10:51 |
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Arthur Hagen wrote:
> Sofia <pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:42:56 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
>>
>>> These votes don't count until I get counted among the voting public.
>>> :) Pratchett is the best living writer bar none IMNSHO.
>>
>>
>>
>> Heeey, I haven't been added either, and I think PTerry's the greatest
>> author that ever lived too - well he's the only author that's ever
>> gotten me hooked on to anything anyway! I reckon every year nobody
>> ever votes for J.K.Rowling - after all it's children that read her
>> books, and they're not allowed to vote at that age anyway. Her
>> publishers just bribe somebody to make up all those statistics on the
>> poll for her to sell more Harry Potter books for them every year! :-)
>
>
> While I think Terry Pratchett is a very good writer, and one of the best
> in his field (certainly in a different class than J. K. Rowlins, IMO),
> I'm not sure I'd call him "great" and neccessarily better than /all/
> others. He's good enough for me to buy and read his books, unlike most
> authors, but I think it would be quite unfair to pit him against the
> truly great. I think that neither Rowlins nor Pratchett truly should be
> in the top three, but Pratchett should IMO be way, way above Rowlins on
> most types of list -- except, perhaps, "Authors captivating an audience
> which usually doesn't read much". I'll give her that.
Of course, then you still get stuck with defining "great". For instance,
I don't think Dickens was that great an author. He was prolific,
certainly, and did a lot for reading and literacy, and I suppose in that
sense was the Victorian Pterry, but his style is convoluted and clunky.
By modern standards, that is.
And that's the problem - greatness depends on era. "Good" writing
depends on what you can compare it to...
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286546 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 10:52 |
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Pudde Fjord wrote:
> Torak wrote:
>> David Chapman wrote:
>>>
>>> Moral: It doesn't matter which side of the bed you get out on; if
>>> you're getting out of bed, it's a *bad* side.
>>
>> "Jaaaa vakna' upp på morron... så va' den da'n förstörd..."
>>
>> Translation is left as an exercise for the reader.
>
> The shortest blues ever...?
Oh, it goes on. But after that it just rambles about snow.
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| Re: [R] Pratchett voted second greatest living author! [message #286607 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 17:38 |
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Torak wrote:
<Dickens>
>his style is
> convoluted and clunky. By modern standards, that is.
Which is just Victorian. <shrug>
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